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My commute was one hour each way. I hopped on the freeway and the first thing I saw was traffic. I then sat in traffic for the next hour pretty much staring at the bumper of the car in front of me.
This is where things can get exciting with your book as a podcast as opposed to (or in addition to) an audiobook.
It's more than talking to your smartphone.
Maybe it's a personal preference but I'm into the atmosphere. [ https://youtu.be/IInkT6n-NiM ]